Monday, March 28, 2011

The Stump of Lehi?

3 Nephi 5:20 [Book of Mormon]
“I am a mormon and a pure descendant of Lehi….’
A pure descendant? What does that mean? His family tree doesn’t fork? Who wasn’t a descendant of Lehi should the rest of the Book of Mormon hold true? And what good does that do anyone? It isn’t like there is some promise attached to the stump of Lehi, as there was for the stump of Jesse, which by the way was in the land they supposedly left because of the corruption of the Jews there.
It just doesn’t make sense people.

4 comments:

Benjamin McLean said...

No, no, no!

He doesn't say, "I am a mormon"

He says, "I am Mormon, and a pure descendant of Lehi."

"Mormon" is his name!

"Mormon" identifies him as an individual as in, "Hi, my name is Mormon." The "Mormons" have been nicknamed after him, not the other way around.

My understanding is that a "pure descendant" means a direct male-line descendant. Lehi is his father's father's father's father with no mothers or cousins or illegitimate polygamous children or anything else breaking that direct line.

Benjamin McLean said...

"with no mothers" - By that I mean, his lineage from Lehi does not come through anyone's daughter but only through sons. LOL of course he had mothers. :)

Bror Erickson said...

Benjamin, You are correct on the first one, typo on my part sorry. now I don't know if I should correct it or leave it so other people know what you are saying.
However, the second part, once again, who isn't if the book of Mormon is true, and two why the hell does it matter?
By the way, lots of illegitemates and so on in Christ's lineage, check it out. He still managed to die for the sins of the world.
Mormon can't get his own fiction right though.

Benjamin McLean said...

> "However, the second part, once again, who isn't if the book of Mormon is true, and two why the hell does it matter?"

I don't know. It says what it says.

I have heard speculations that the Nephites and Lamanites assimilated various other people.

> "By the way, lots of illegitemates and so on in Christ's lineage, check it out. He still managed to die for the sins of the world.
Mormon can't get his own fiction right though."

First of all, if Mormon really existed, that in itself would show that this isn't fiction. I think you meant "Joseph Smith can't get his own fiction right though."

I am no expert in genealogy and while my church believes in "the importance of family" as the Mormon phrase goes, unlike the Mormons, we mean it in the same sense James Dobson (founder of Focus on the Family) would mean. We don't think it's particularly important that people should have to research their genealogies (unless they want to for some reason) and we don't believe in the secret temple stuff.

Maybe I am wrong about what being a "pure descendant" means. If we start from the premise that Jesus was a pure descendant of David then it follows that descendants of polygamous marriages are still pure descendants.