Wednesday, June 2, 2010

Keep the Ten Commandments and You will be Saved?

[Book of Mormon] Mosiah12:33
But now Abinadi said unto them: I know if ye keep the commandments of God ye shall be saved; yea if ye keep the commandments which the Lord delivered unto Moses in the mount of Sinai saying:…
Funny, the other day I asked a Mormon, “if God wiped your slate clean today, do you think you could go the rest of the day without breaking one of his Ten Commandments”? She answered yes. I asked her if she knew the Ten Commandments and the answer was no. She was guessing.
Of course Mormon’s break the first one right off, by having a different God than the one revealed in the Bible, denying the Triune God. So good luck with the rest. They then break the second commandment by invoking the name of Jesus Christ, but meaning by that a person who is not God, but became a god. The list goes on.
However, it is true if you keep his commandments you will be saved. The problem comes in with the realization that you can’t. We are all guilty of breaking them. And the only remedy is faith in Jesus Christ who as the God/man died for the sins of the world on the cross and rose again on the third day. You have an either/or proposition here. Law or Gospel. It is either by Christ’s propitiation for your sins, or it is up to you to do a lot better than you have.


Jettboy said...

I am going to break every single Commandment there is. God doesn't care. I'm saved anyway because I believe The Right Things(tm), Isn't that right? If this isn't true, what is your belief about faith and the commandments?

Bror Erickson said...

My belief is that you have broken every single commandment there is and your only hope is faith in Jesus Christ for your salvation.

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Steve Martin said...

It's too late for worrying about keeping the Commandments to be right with God. Much too late.

Our only hope is in Christ. We need a Savior and He is the Savior we need.

So then why keep the Commandments. Because we want to, and because in so doing we are doing what we were made to do.

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Bror Erickson said...

Well, well said steve!

Bror Erickson said...

I hate posting from phone, so I deleted my phone posts.
I also hope that Jettboy would come back to have a discussion here. For some reason I get potshot Mormon's who try to say something and the minute you counter they run off never to return. I am beginning to think it is because they don't really want to defend what they suspect to be a lie. Otherwise I am not so sure why they are so insecure about their religion.

Bror Erickson said...

My first answer here was short due to time.
Let me answer a bit more thoroughly.
I believe that you have broke every single commandment. I believe most especially that you break the first two routinely, and that you are the one that doesn't care. You don't care enough to use your God given reason to investigate who God is and how he has revealed himself in Scripture. But you are also guilty of breaking all the rest of the commandments. No one is righteous not one. You are a sinner through and through.
God does care. God cares enough about his commandments and his name to send you to hell for not honoring your mother and your father. For hating your brother. For committing adultery, with the lust in your heart. For stealing. For just gossiping about your neighbor who sneaks out back to have a cigarette when he thinks no one is looking. Yes he will send you t hell for that little transgression. No one is righteous, least of all you. He will send you to hell for being jealous of your neighbors wealth, and better looking, and nicer wife. He will send you to hell, and by hell I mean what you call outer darkness, except that Jesus describes it as a lake of fire. He will send you to hell for coveting your neighbor's donkey, his car, house, dog, or anything that your neighbor owns and has given you a tinge of jealousy. Yes God cares. He cares very much. He is Holy and cannot tolerate your sin. He definately cannot tolerate your self righteous attempts to please him with the filthy rags you call good works, and your feeble attempts to justify yourself for breaking the above commandments. Commandments that are not a matter of expediency for him, as you seem to think they are. They are a matter of his holy, and righteous will. You ignoring them is an affront to his honor, and glory. Your attempt to justify yourself just digs the hole deeper. There is nothing he can do for you when you reject the salvation he offers in His Son's death and resurrection. Your sins are so awful that He, God, had to die for them. And you want to make up for them by being a Boy Scout?
There is no salvation to be had in the commandments, only condemnation.

Bror Erickson said...

As for my belief concerning faith and the commandments?
Love is a byproduct of faith. We love because he first loved us. But we can't truly love, without first being loved by Him who is love. That is without faith in the forgiveness of sins won by Christ's death and resurrection, you cannot love. And only love fulfills the law (Ten Commandments). Love does not try to keep the commandments for the sake of saving one's self or contributing to their salvation, however. Love fulfills the law, because of love, love for God, and the people he died for.
So get over yourself. Repent, and take some time to experience the love God has for you.